May 29, 2018 - Here is quick tutorial to stop a carriage bolt from spinning while you are trying to tighten it. Can you wedge in there and maybe hit it with a hammer to create a notch to stop it from spinning. Thank you! When I build decks, I typically use carriage bolts to secure the 4×4 handrail posts to the joists. Keep the flame on the bolt for about 15 seconds. Removing the carriage bolt is a fairly simple process. This is the only way besides cutting to remove a carriage bolt, which has a flat or a smooth dome head that can't be "locked on" with a socket or driver, or to otherwise remove a nut from a bolt … When you tighten the bolt, the neck gets pushed into this opening. Nov 13, 2017 - There's a lot of ways to remove carriage bolts from an application. If the bolt keeps spinning in place and refuses to budge, do whatever you need to do to get it out. Can you wedge in there and maybe hit it with a hammer to create a notch to stop it from spinning. Get the screw started by prying on the screw head a bit. Ease the flat head of the screwdriver under the bold and push it upwards. The rounded head will provide that as opposed to there being a hex or square head sticking out. The most common thing is rusted bolts. How to Avoid Spinners. Grind the nut and bolt until you’ve completely grinded through the nut and you can easily pull the bolt out. -- Re: Removing carriage bolts from wood: PaintyLiz : 9/4/17 2:14 PM: replying to Pete C., PaintyLiz wrote: I doubt that this will reach you, but thank you so much for your answer about how to remove a carriage Bolt from wood. The anchor bolt is often carriage bolts. This article will let you know the reasons for toilet bolts spinning and how to keep carriage bolts from spinning. What next? Here’s a quick tip I learned many moons ago and still use today. Push the flat end of the screwdriver under the nut and try and release the nut out of its place. A lot of people use the “lefty loosey, righty tighty” phrase to remember which way to go. lesoleil70. A carriage bolt (also called coach bolt and round-head square-neck bolt is a form of bolt used to fasten metal to metal or metal to wood.. It is important to know which way a bolt unscrews before you decide it is just spinning or stripped. Re: How do you remove WC t-bolts that spin? Re: Removing carriage bolts from wood: Jeff Wisnia: 5/19/08 2:40 PM: HeyBub wrote: I believe that Liz is saying that when she turns the nut, the bolt turnes with it and the square under the bolt head reamed out the wood, possibly because the nuts are a bit corroded onto the bolts. Before you attempt to loosen the nut on the spinning bolt, hold down the bolt; ask a friend to hold it for you with a wrench. Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox. This will effectively lengthen your wrench by 2 feet (0.61 m) and will give you more torque when you try to remove the stuck bolt. The square shoulder of a carriage bolt stops it from spinning as it is screwed into the surface of a material. Thanks! Get complete site access to expert advice, how-to videos, Code Check, and more, plus the print magazine. those don't look too cheap to buy. How about a screw where the head or part of the shaft has broken off and now the screw spins freely but doesn’t come out? If necessary, clean off more of the buildup with the wire brush. Holding the drill at an angle will secure the bolt in place. Once you’ve drilled the hole, the bolt will no longer have a place to stay in and you can use a pair of pliers or a wrench to pull it out. as the toilets filling, i'm cutting and then test flushing. With the partially cured epoxy around the bolt, pull the bolt the rest of the way into it's place and allow a few minutes for the epoxy to continue to cure. You WILL damage the threads of the bolt; just try not to cause so much damage the nut won't come off. Both over and under-sized bolts are going to keep spinning. Tufbolt Security Bolts are carriage bolts without a square neck beneath the head. If the square head is driven into the wood, and the wood dries out (which is common with PT lumber), the square head may no longer be tight enough to prevent rotation of the carriage head when you tighten the nut. I hate to put a pair of pliers on a carriage-bolt head because it ends up scratched. Re: How do you remove WC t-bolts that spin? Let it soak in a bit then you may be able to tap it gently with a hammer to get the nut and bolt to loosen. - M.K. You don’t want to tiny metal shard flying around! Once you seat the bolt through the hole, it is the job of the nut and washer to pull the bolt into the material tightly. Become a member and get instant access to thousands of videos, how-tos, tool reviews, and design features. When I went to unscrew these body mount bolts ; 5 of the bolts (2 front, 3 cab mount bolts) are spinning.. Cage nuts have dislogged (broke the welds) to the frame. This will prevent the bolt from spinning as it’s tightened. You would not typically use this type of bolt on very hard wood as it may not properly dig into the material, which would cause the bolt to spin in place. Alternatively, you can apply a bit of glue on top of the nut, and while it’s still liquid, stick the top of the drill bit on it. Use caution, as some of th… Why Toilet Anchor Bolts Spins? If you’re lucky, cleaning the rust might help you get the bolt out without having to put in any extra effort. You may need to drill a small hole around the bolt to jimmy it out. You would not typically use this type of bolt on very hard wood as it may not properly dig into the material, which would cause the bolt to spin in place. Problem is, sometimes the carriage bolts start to spin because the square recess in the wood gets rounded and the bolt shank can’t get a good bite. 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If you are using a locking nut, these are sometimes quite hard to install and require a lot of torque which could cause the bolt to slip in the hole. Use an adjustable wrench, standard wrench or pliers to remove the bolt. Re: Problem tightening carriage bolts. Bob F: 5/4/11 12:39 PM: If the bolt sticks far out of the nut, you could hold the threads with vise-grips while you turn the nut. Jan 13, 2019. G-man BBQ king. Keep cranking the nut splitter screw until the nut makes an audible pop and you get through the nut. ThePrecisionTools.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Does a Spinning Bolt Need to be Tightened? DO NOT TAKE THE NUT ALL THE WAY OFF THE BOLT, you will need it to help move the bolt along. Joined Jan 3, 2010 Messages 1,129 Location Southern California. Some recommended products may use affiliate links. Carriage bolts are designed so that on one side of an assembly that there are no protruding bits for things to catch on. Some of these require a little effort and basic items that everyone already probably has. On December 1st, at 4pm CT, The Kansas City BS and Beer discussion group invites Christine Williamson and Justin Fink to brainstorm how to bring building science to the masses. A carriage bolt is a bolt with threading all the way up the shank to a small square shoulder, with a domed head. It’s no more Mr. Nice Guy. Read my disclosure for more info. Some even believe using WD will help prevent future rust issues! Joined: Aug 18, 2007 Posts: 12,065 Likes Received: 1,265 Location: essex.... in the middle somewhere. With the right technique, you can save yourself the trouble of dealing with spinning bolts. However, you can also use these bolts to secure wood to wood or metal to metal. When the bolts are rusted, it starts decaying the metal. Removing bolt from riv nut - keeps spinning - Help Thread starter 95Fantasma80; Start date Jan 13, 2019; Watchers 6 95Fantasma80. flat-head screwdriver to hold it from spinning. Apply penetrating oil to the nut and let it sit for 24 hours. Thanks! It requires fixing to keep the toilet stable. Hit the nut with a hammer to start easing the bolt out of the material and continue this process until you can remove the bolt by hand. Thread starter #1 Hi all, Noob question, but I always manage to make easy jobs hard. Sign up for the Fine Homebuilding Tip of the Day and get daily tips and special offers delivered to your inbox. This will help yank the spinning bolt out. I wonder if there would be some sort of soft (brass) washer that could help fill the hole where the bolt head fits. Keep screwing the nut splitter on top of the nut till you hear an audible cracking sound. For a prying tool, I like to use a utility blade. If your nut and bolt are rusted, you’ll need to use a lubricant such as oil to get rid of the rust first. The carriage bolt has a square or hexagonal neck under the rounded head. Thread starter #1 Hi all, Noob question, but I always manage to make easy jobs hard. Than use a hammer to tap on the nut and bolt to try to break some of the rust. B. BigBoy Senior Member. The shoulder of the bolt keeps the bolt from spinning as you’re placing the bolt. Repair or replace and make sure you can thread the nut on the bolt with just your fingers before installing the bolt. If you do, add another nail. Jan 13, 2019. This is another one of those fancy tools that don’t need to make it to your shed until you’re completely desperate. It feel like a carriage bolt on the top side of the frame. Hold the bolt in place with the help of a pair of pliers and use the hacksaw to cut a little bit off the top. Re: Problem tightening carriage bolts. The main thing to be careful of with this method is that it may also end up damaging the bolt in the process. Pour 2-3 drops of oil onto the bolt and allow it to soak through completely. rick. Once the nut is backed off to the end of the bolt, hit the nut with a hammer. How to Remove a Rusted Carriage Bolt: cut a groove in the top so you can hold it still with a screwdriver while you loosen the nut! If it's a carriage bolt, it has a nut somewhere. Sep 6, 2016 - Have you ever run into a carriage bolt that is rusted and doesn't want to come out. You should make an opening in the metal with the size and shape of the neck. How about a screw where the head or part of the shaft has broken off and now the screw spins freely but doesn’t come out? Others need a little fancy equipment that you might need to purchase from hardware stores. Apart from a wrench, a vice grip is also a tool that you can use to try and pry the spinning nut and bolt out. This will make it difficult to remove. swanny Senior Member. First, you will want to twist the nut loose to the end of the bolt. Back off the nut splitter screw and clean the bolt of the split nut. The heat will cause the bolt to expand, and instead of spinning, it’ll get stuck and can be pulled out with the help of a wrench. A nut can stick on a spinning bolt for a variety of reasons, including rust or calcium buildup or even simple general wear and tear of the product. Whether you’re fixing a bolt at the back of an old sofa set, or you’re trying to fix the trunk of your car which just won’t shut, be careful not to damage the sofa itself or the paint job on the trunk. Before we jump into what these methods are, we’d just like to throw in a disclaimer that proper safety measures should be observed at all times to avoid being hit in the eye with a bolt, or accidentally slipping on a loose nut and breaking your front teeth. Amazon and the Amazon logo are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc or its affiliates. If you subscribe to this saying you probably already have some WD-40 on hand. It helps pay for web hosting. Nov 13, 2017 - There's a lot of ways to remove carriage bolts from an application. there are a number of methods you can try to remove a bolt, use the hacksaw to cut a little bit off the top. Use a drill bit and drill straight through the bolt. Removing bolt from riv nut - keeps spinning - Help Thread starter 95Fantasma80; Start date Jan 13, 2019; Watchers 6 95Fantasma80. If it is a carriage bolt (dome shaped head) then it is supposed to be held by a square under the head that fits into a square hole… Coach/Carriage Bolts - best way to remove rusty ones? When I have problems with the closet bolt spinning for toilet removal, I use my Dremel with a cutting wheel, albeit my Dremel is a Bosch pencil grinder spins at 34,000RPM. Use a wire brush to clean off any rust, lime or calcium deposits. Carriage bolts can be a PITA on for deck applications. as the toilets filling, i'm cutting and then test flushing. I tried using a flathead to pop it off but it cant get under it, theres not enough space. Remove the nut completely from the threads … An angle grinder cutter should ideally be your last resort. From basic toolbox items to the tools of serious handymen, there are a number of methods you can try to remove a bolt that keeps spinning in place. Use a wrench on the bolt head. An impact wrench can remove some bolts by spinning so fast they heat up and bind enough to be removed. It feel like a carriage bolt on the top side of the frame. To solve this problem, as I’m inserting the bolt through the post I insert a nail, as shown in the drawing. This usually happens in soft woods such as red cedar, or when the posts have to be loosened for some reason. It’s advisable to try this method out on a piece of spare plastic or some scrap metal before going straight for it on your car and ending up with at least a few hundred dollars worth of damage. Carriage bolts fasten the pieces very securely. The power of the gun will cause the nut to rotate at a very high speed and come loose almost instantly. Reply. Carriage bolts fasten the pieces very securely. Joined Jan 3, 2010 Messages 1,129 Location Southern California. Since these are galvanized carriage bolt, most are not rusted. Slip a hollow piece of metal over the handle of a box-end wrench. Use the socket wrench on the nut and begin turning the nut while holding the bolt still with a large flat head screwdriver. The heat from the propane torch should cause the bolt to expand. This will hopefully help it come loose and allow you to pull it out. Once it’s dry, try pulling the nut out. Here’s a quick tip I learned many moons ago and still use today. Use a piece of metal that’s at least 2 feet (0.61 m) long. (Read 5466 times) 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. The article below will focus on how to remove a spinning screw. Hi, The latest 3 machines I have purchased ALL have rusted on coach/carriage bolts that just turn the nut and bolt together when forced. The square shoulder of a carriage bolt stops it from spinning as it is screwed into the surface of a material. richardgrace75, Sep 13, 2009 #1. Lucky for you, if bolts are rusted in place as mentioned above, you can use a lubricant like WD-40 penetrating spray to help loosen the rust. I have tried a crap load of PB blaster on the fronts bolts w vice grips but still can't loosen the bolts using breaker bar. Aim to get the nut out of place, especially if the bolt and nut are spinning together. Allow it a few moments to sink through before you start trying all the many ways to pull the spinning bolt out. Use a rubber hammer or a wooden block to set the bolt without marking the head. Hero Member Offline Posts: 695 . Because carriage bolts have so many uses, they’re widely used in all sorts of industries. How to Remove a Stubborn Nut/Bolt: There are MANY ways to remove stuck and stubborn nuts/bolts, here are some of the ways that I've found work best.These methods contain both simple options, and some that use luxurious tools such as an impact gun or welder. those don't look too cheap to buy. Can you attack it from that direction? There are a few handy tips and tricks that you can use to remove a bolt that keeps spinning. When you tighten the bolt, the neck gets pushed into this opening. If the spinning is driving you crazy, you need to stop worrying about protecting the nut and bolt. If you’re lucky, cleaning the rust might help you get the bolt out without having to put in any extra effort. 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